Tuesday, September 19, 2006

pre-proper-response thoughts on Yuva

It's really, really good.

And without having had time to put much thought into the matter yet, I'd say it's better - by which I mean more effective to me - than Rang De Basanti.

And until I have time to write up my thoughts, which might be awhile, the way this week and weekend are shaping up, here are three things in it that I noticed, none of which are important, but you know me, that's the kind of thing I notice:
1) It appears that Arjun's family has a Swatch phone. My friend Rosalie had one of these in high school - it was clear plastic, so you could see all the colorful wire bits inside. (This is very appropriate, actually, because today at lunch I saw someone with the very Swatch that my friend Jenny had in junior high - and the rush of time swooshing past me was incredible, I was right back in choir rehearsal, sitting with her and giggling and making up fortunes [by the MASH method, of course] and doodling the names of the boys we liked on our folders - artifacts can be so powerful, it's amazing.) (Do we ever grow out of doodling the name of the boy we like while we're supposed to be paying attention to something else? Or is that just me?) (Anyway.)
2) In the subtitles, at least, Vivek offers Kareena the chance to enjoy "one cup of pure, harmless, platonic coffee." Sold!
3) The professor warns Ajay and his pals that if they keep up their current activities, they'll become "rusticated." I'm pretty sure she even says it in English. This is an absolutely wonderful term that I've only ever heard (/read) in Bollywood. (I forget the other movie I've caught it in, and I think it had a college setting too - maybe Main Hoon Na?)

Update to post (September 20, 2006): After zeroin, uiuc_anon, and ggop wrote in about "rusticate," I realized how badly I want to know what this word means and why I had it sort of wrong. I had assumed it just meant "to become/make something less sophisticated" or "to countrify," as though if you carried on with your hooliganish behavior you would be no better than a pig in its slop. But no, is has Oxbridgey meaning! You'd think after my two years in an Oxbridgey college I would have encountered that - it's where I learned "chit," for example - but no. Maybe no one gets rusticated from a Canadian Oxbridgey graduate college. Anyway, I have the OED open, and the first meaning of "to rusticate" is "To go or retire into the country; to stay or sojourn in the country; to assume rural manners, to live a country life." Makes sense. The second definition is the school one, and it first appeared in 1714. (Interestingly, it also appeared in 1734 in what appears to be an American publication, so it's not solely an English-English thing.) I assume it came about from all those gentlemen's sons, who, after having gone a shandy too far, were sent back to their country houses. And its third sense is "To imbue with rural manners; to countrify," the negative implications of which are what I had first assumed. I love when I learn things from Bollywood.

This concludes today's edition of Beth's Etymology Corner. See you next week!

10 comments:

michael said...

interesting thing, comparing rdb and yuva. i'd vote for the first one. that is cause yuva tells directly whats wrong and whats right. but rdb isn't that way. it shows developement as a matter of time but does not say its right or wrong. it was often heavily critisized not to say whats right and whats wrong. i like such films you can hour and hour discuss about but don't find the directors opinion openly. yuva is bye the way another movie by making. these three storylines connecting at the bridge are something special, but they dont help by developing the different characters and doesn't heöp by showing individual problems.

i like both. and should look both soon again :)

zeroin said...

'Rusticated' is a term often used in Indian colleges :-) Whenever a student has been deemed to have committed a diciplinary offense, he is either threatened with rustication from college or outright rusticated. It is similar to suspension from college.

Sharon said...

while the fight at the end is really kinda silly, the reason I love Yuva is 'cause this is the movie that made me sit up and go, "Wow. Abhishek Bachchan can *really* act."

I'd seen him in other movies, obviously but this was the one that made me think of him as an actor, instead of a star. Salman Khan, for example - star. But Bachchan Jr is an ACTOR - which is just so much cooler, don't you think? :D

uiuc_anon said...

"rustication" and "suspension" are two terms which I was always afraid of in school (back in India). On being at the recieving end of our pranks, our teachers used to scare us by saying "I'll get you rusticated from school".

ggop said...

The word is mentioned in Webster's too

transitive verb
1 chiefly British : to suspend from school or college

The director of Yuva, Mani Ratnam has a reputation for making interesting films.
gg

babasko said...

i think that i might like yuva better then rdb too, i never though about it before, but now that you mentioned it..

btw now you really have to watch Aayutha Ezhuthu (the tamil verson of the film) as well. and face the same "which-one´s-better" dilemma that i did

ad the very very cool coffee line. did i tell you vienna has the first (and so far only) coffee day outside of india?

btw: i guess you might have heard the term rusticated in munnabhai mbbs once or twice (if you saw it, that is)..

Beth said...

Michael - I haven't seen RDB for awhile, but if memory serves, I kinda thought it put too positive a spin what the guys did, that assassinating someone (two someones, really, since Anupam Kher's character is killed too) is...well, I won't say "praised," certainly, but not condemned. I don't think it glorifies what they did, but I think it lets people infer that that is somehow heroic. But again, of course I'm relying on subtitles, and I'm so far from being the target audience of that movie that I hesitate to say anything about its message at all becuase I'm so unsure that I got the bulk of the message thoroughly.

Sharon - I'm having exactly the same reaction to Abhishek. I was thinking about it on the way in to work this morning. He's just incredible in this movie. I thought everyone did a great job (even Vivek, of whom I am none too fond) - but wow.

uiuc_anon said...

beth - now that you've been introduced to desi movies in UFL and CPL, the next step is the tonnes of bolly stuff on youtube.com

uiuc_anon said...

Most terms/phrases used in 'Indian English' are from 'British English'. But there are quite a few terms/phrases that are inherently "Indian".
Search Wikipeida under "Indian English":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_English

Some of the terms that my kidergarten teacher used (back in India):

- Sssh..keep quite..I want pindrop silence in the class.
- Until and unless you keep quiet, you won't get the sweets. :)
-

Maja said...

Yay Babasko, I remember "rusticated" from Munnabhai MBBS too! And it took me a little while to figure out what they meant by it. I don't think I remember it from Yuva though, but it's been a while since I've seen that.