tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post7355567045536989685..comments2023-11-10T08:26:51.182-06:00Comments on Beth Loves Bollywood: Mere ApneBeth Loves Bollywoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05540154833326987567noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-33237346841857821872016-03-31T08:46:03.845-05:002016-03-31T08:46:03.845-05:00Thank you! I have seen Paintal in many things sinc...Thank you! I have seen Paintal in many things since but STILL don't recognize Yogesh Chhabra. Beth Loves Bollywoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05540154833326987567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-51276567889639617822016-03-31T03:06:29.093-05:002016-03-31T03:06:29.093-05:00Yogesh Chhabra and Paintal are these 2 actors Yogesh Chhabra and Paintal are these 2 actors VRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10886029871063551740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-26543745865877979982016-03-31T03:04:47.204-05:002016-03-31T03:04:47.204-05:00The 1st actor is Yogesh Chhabra and the 2nd one is...The 1st actor is Yogesh Chhabra and the 2nd one is Paintal VRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10886029871063551740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-55769891623031355112009-10-23T13:54:09.410-05:002009-10-23T13:54:09.410-05:00Here's something to cheer you up!
http://film...Here's something to cheer you up!<br /><br />http://filmfare.com/details.php?id=17<br /><br />Because it's always Amrish season.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-7586093760375068542009-10-23T00:10:02.561-05:002009-10-23T00:10:02.561-05:00Definitely, the gang wars were more engaging than ...Definitely, the gang wars were more engaging than Anandi's sob-sob stuff. I never did like goody-goody women. <br /><br />The unknown actor is not Dinesh Thakur. But his name escapes me.<br /><br />As for the resemblance between Yogeeta Bali and Rekha, they were great friends at one point of time, and gave each other makeovers. I think it was during Rekha's Vinod Mehra stage, if I remember right from the loads of filmi mags I read as a kid.Bannohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03855784743978203037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-52306191861442221802009-10-20T11:06:51.254-05:002009-10-20T11:06:51.254-05:00Gulzar is generally considered a "sensitive&q...Gulzar is generally considered a "sensitive" filmaker with feminist sympathies, but after going through most of his movies, I've come to the conclusion that he's pretty traditional in his outlook on women. So, I think the idealization of the uneducated, bumpkin, suffering woman in Mere Apne *is* Gulzar's doing and one of the many reasons that I ultimately found the film - boring.Shalinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13254643642104251964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-25105994923582073562009-10-19T16:07:16.276-05:002009-10-19T16:07:16.276-05:00I think I'm prone to liking any Gulzar movie a...I think I'm prone to liking any Gulzar movie and this one is one of his first films, and I dont feel Meena Kumari's character was that weepy , she just had a culturee shock i would say! Loving the Funkadelic shirts Shatru wears and am determined to make a crazy dress from those materials, and after watching this film i searched Vancouver for those seriously coool glasses Vinod wore and I FOUND THEM!!!!Rumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10104185865100510017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-70953552953085806442009-10-19T13:38:49.400-05:002009-10-19T13:38:49.400-05:00This film was too unhappy for me, but I definitely...This film was too unhappy for me, but I definitely thought Vinod and Shatrughan put in really good performances. Like you, as I wasn't as much on board with Anandi. (And, after seeing her flashbacks, I decided that I'd pick the present, despite its problems, over the past.) I cried at the end of the film, but that was entirely due to Vinod.Cindyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18190111448235050421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-66716582190586147402009-10-19T11:31:36.898-05:002009-10-19T11:31:36.898-05:00The first cap of Yogeeta reminds me of the pre-mak...The first cap of Yogeeta reminds me of the pre-makeover Rekha. In fact, for a moment, I thought it was her until I saw the words "Yogeeta Bali".lapetitedivahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01039596985868278574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-7850948415490199242009-10-19T09:16:41.708-05:002009-10-19T09:16:41.708-05:00Is it just me, or does the unknown guy look a lot ...Is it just me, or does the unknown guy look a lot like Abhishek Kapoor, the director of Rock On? Maybe it's his DAD!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-63436707864296530732009-10-18T13:28:51.315-05:002009-10-18T13:28:51.315-05:00PS: Dinesh Thakur is the bearded guy in front of t...PS: Dinesh Thakur is the bearded guy in front of the poster of <i>Anand</i> in the screen cap just above the 'fake blood' one.Bollyviewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270927806254662068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-76192338121019971742009-10-18T13:26:53.123-05:002009-10-18T13:26:53.123-05:00Its been a while since I saw this film, so my memo...Its been a while since I saw this film, so my memories are rather patchy, but I dont remember Meena being self-sacrificing and weepy. She is, to begin with, but she learns to look out for herself pretty fast. The scene that always stays in my memory is that she looks like a helpless, simple, old woman, who is offered a home in a young relative's house - and she stuns the said relative (and the viewer) by asking how much she'll be paid! So, if she does symbolise modern India, then the symbolism is that India is learning to adapt fast!<br /><br />Also, if I remember correctly, Urmi ditches Shyam when she learns that he has friends like Chaino (a big bad <i>goonda</i>) and thats what starts their enmity. Kind of interesting that Shotgun's very presence exudes villainy of sorts that cannot be tolerated even for Vinod! ;-)<br /><br />For the rest, the movie just reflects the problems of the Indian youth (men mostly, because the women will be taken care of, or beaten, by men!) of those days. The 70s were times of very high unemployment and socio-political unrest. And I thought this film did a great job of capturing that mood on celluloid.Bollyviewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270927806254662068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-54677138775872700192009-10-18T09:07:41.753-05:002009-10-18T09:07:41.753-05:00SRG - Ah, well done! I think you're right abou...SRG - Ah, well done! I think you're right about Dinesh Thakur - he is listed as being in the film, at least!<br /><br />veracious - If I had to choose one of them to be the star of the film, it's Vinod, though he does not have super massive amounts of screen time. The Meena focus is really in the first chunk, and then the narrative shifts towards the guys (though she is friends with them at that point, so she's still around - but she's also left the house of eeeeeevil trouser-wearing, so there's much less commentary from her character). And, for what it's worth, she's not suicidal - it's more like she's distressed at the state of the big bad world. One of the things that was frustrating to me is that she seemed not to be miserable in her flashbacks that show her married to someone who is quite frankly an ass - I didn't get why that seemed to be fine with her but women working outside the home was distressing. Maybe it's a case of the devil she knew. Anyway. Yeah, see it for Vinod. He and Shatrughan have some great exchanges, and he does a lot of being oppressed by the weight of contemporary woes.<br /><br />FG - I'd be interested to see some of her other later films to try to figure out whether her acting style here is a result of illness or something she and/or Gulzar chose deliberately for this role. I don't think this is a great film, but it's interesting, and it has a lot to say.<br /><br />Memsaab - Yeah, you're probably right - for some reason I was trying to be generous :) That PFC essay really made me rethink some of my reactions to this film. <br /><br />Your second point - RIGHT ON! I think this particular film does not use the basic "uneducated, taken advantage of woman=grieved-for Hindustan" thing in quite as an extreme way as you're talking about, but it certainly seemed on that path to me. It's also interesting how fast the "now" representatives (the young men) take her into their fold - they are a little bit amused by her, but basically they're thrilled to have someone look out for their food needs and listen to their tales. So, you know: MAAAAAAAA (and none of the guys seem to have parents of note, being either orphans, almost-orphans [Vinod's mom abandoned her family! nahiiiiiin! how evil!], or forced to move out of their houses because of interpersonal issues).<br /><br />There's more I want to discuss about this point but it has to do with the very end so I don't want to spoil it for people. But yeah. I think you'd see red.Beth Loves Bollywoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05540154833326987567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-75550223006896693602009-10-18T09:00:11.393-05:002009-10-18T09:00:11.393-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Beth Loves Bollywoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05540154833326987567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-82786744099843596532009-10-18T08:57:44.222-05:002009-10-18T08:57:44.222-05:00"There aren't many women in this film at ..."There aren't many women in this film at all, which I'd like to think is the filmmakers' way of commenting on gender discrepancies as one of contemporary India's problems."<br /><br />Or maybe the filmmakers just didn't think of putting some women in there :)<br /><br />I love your point about making a woman who has been mistreated, not educated, taken advantage of, etc. the "beacon" for humanity. It shows up in so many films, and makes me see red---especially when it is meant as a progressive message. A society dependent on self-sacrificing, unhappy females for its success is a society I want no part of. It is so fundamentally regressive and inhumane that I can't forgive it even in a film that's 40 years old. (I haven't seen this film, so maybe that isn't the case here but it is in so many movies)...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-25068578443675285052009-10-18T08:21:46.876-05:002009-10-18T08:21:46.876-05:00Oh, poor Meena Kumari!!! She was so ill then... :(...Oh, poor Meena Kumari!!! She was so ill then... :(<br /><br />I don't know if I'd watch this but I did enjoy your write-up... maybe I could just watch the Shotgun/Vinod scenes... hmm...Filmi Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16182245444783020664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-2218727290082497252009-10-18T07:58:28.070-05:002009-10-18T07:58:28.070-05:00I really like Asrani in the 70's. Not so much ...I really like Asrani in the 70's. Not so much in Priyadarshan films of modern times but 70's? YES. Then again, I do have a general soft spot for comedic actors anyway.<br /><br />This seems like a movie I need to see. I remember reading the plot description on IMDb during my Vinod kick but deciding against getting my hands on it because because I thought it focused primarily on Meena Kumari womanpaining. While I respect her legacy a lot and love her in Sahib Biwi aur Ghulam but in general I'm not very into movies about women being miserable/suicidal. You don't make it sound more appealling..<br /><br />Should I watch it for Vinod, though?veracioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14437521137603205617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15977843.post-90347120151886411412009-10-18T04:00:46.316-05:002009-10-18T04:00:46.316-05:00The second actor is Kanwarjit Paintal, more common...The second actor is Kanwarjit Paintal, more commonly known as Paintal, the famous comedian in bolly movies.<br /><br />I'm not so sure about the first one though, he could be Dinesh Thakur, Mandira Bedi's dad in the TV soap 'Shanti' ...<br /><br />SRGSRGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00246291683286420519noreply@blogger.com